Episode 024
Why DEI is Broken & How to Fix It with TaChelle Lawson
In this episode, James Robbins interviews TaChelle Lawson, a business strategist and author of Black Is Not a Credential, who shares her insights on why DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) has become such a polarizing topic in recent years. TaChelle discusses the misconceptions surrounding DEI, how it has been poorly implemented in corporate settings, and what leaders can do to build inclusive, high-performing teams without falling into performative activism. She also shares key takeaways from her book and explains why businesses should focus on their core mission while navigating social responsibilities.
Show Notes
In this conversation, James Robbins and TaChelle Lawson explore the realities of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and why it has become a controversial and misunderstood concept in the workplace. TaChelle explains that while DEI started with good intentions, many corporate initiatives have missed the mark—leading to division rather than true inclusion. She breaks down the difference between diversity, equity, and inclusion, and explains why businesses should align DEI efforts with revenue, reputation, and retention instead of blindly following social trends.
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00:00 The Polarizing Nature of DEI
Recap & Takeaways
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- DEI has become a polarizing topic due to emotional responses.
- The events of 2020 sparked a global reckoning regarding race and equity.
- Diversity is a fact, while equity is a choice that requires careful implementation.
- HR should not be solely responsible for DEI initiatives; leadership must take charge.
- Belonging in the workplace can create confusion and may lead to exclusion.
- Woke agendas often lack factual basis and can hinder effective DEI efforts.
- Businesses should focus on solving problems and making money, not solely on social justice.
- Effective DEI programs must align with business goals and the three Rs: revenue, reputation, and retention.
- TaChelle’s book critiques the current DEI landscape and calls for a return to business fundamentals.
- Honest conversations about DEI are essential for progress.
